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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptics on for

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the ninth of November 2013 Richard

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Saunders here with you coming to you

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live from the Pitt Street Mall in Sydney

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and vaseline more there's a busker down

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there about to play another number I'm

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on my way this afternoon to skeptics in

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the pub here in Sydney our monthly

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meeting it's always great fun to go to

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skeptics in the pub and I'll be playing

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the part of maynard doing some

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interviews with pub goers just have to

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think of a topic you're coming up on

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this week's show it is may not in fact

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maynard's going to be interviewing dr.

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Rob Morrison a great skeptic a great

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scientist and people in Australia will

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certainly remember him as one of the

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presenters of the curiosity show the

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curiosity show was a brilliant

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children's science show in the 1970s

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1980s

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and recently Robin Dean huntin from the

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show have been putting up hundreds of

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clips onto YouTube so now children all

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over the world can learn how to make

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things do things how things work it's

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just a wonderful thing they're done

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Maynard's going to chat to rob morrison

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all about that and what it was like to

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put together a children's science show

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that's coming up at the top of the show

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after that I'm going to be relaying some

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information from the government about

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watching out for scams now recently in

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this country we had the Melbourne Cup

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the biggest horse race in the country

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where the whole nation stops in bits on

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horses where the government put out some

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information via their scam watch service

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and I thought it was very good

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information so i'll be reading that out

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a bit later on watch out for scams also

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coming up a few more announcements from

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me later in the show those interviews

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from skeptics in the pub but right now I

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think I'll run around the corner see if

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I can't find myself a nice little

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California roll while I'm doing that I

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here's my not spooky action at the

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ladies and gentlemen as a kid you often

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mucking around in front the TV going ah

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yeah cartoons but every once in a while

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science would come on the television and

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this is one of the guys who brought that

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to you Rob Morrison dr. Rob Morrison how

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do you do how do you do what have you

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got a doctorate in by the way Rob uh

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well originally was in brain anatomy and

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physiology but I went back to the first

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love of natural history after that oh

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and tell me the curiosity show is a

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legend in Australia how did you get such

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an intelligent scientific thing on the

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air well it was a set of them I'm trying

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to keep it brief but essentially it

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happened because way back in nineteen

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seventies I suppose or 72 the broadcast

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control board had a children's

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programming committee they suddenly told

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all the commercial channels that they

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would no longer be allowed to get away

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with just making school programs for

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little ease they had to start making

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programs for children of school going

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age and put them on in out of school

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hours so suddenly all these television

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stations were hit with this requirement

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to make programs and they knew nothing

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about them except in our Adelaide we'd

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always had this kind of convention that

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let me channel 9 did that anyway so they

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had a head start and that's where

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curiosity show is born actually was born

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as an offshoot out of heart free beer

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believe it or not also as a small

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segment on Humphrey beer that's the

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large bear with no pants well it wasn't

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so much a small segment it was a new

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show but because they didn't quite know

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how to do it they kind of put Humphrey

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in it and then they got people like me

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and then happen to try and do stuff the

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13 year olds well this idiotic beer was

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leaping around just stick elating cuz he

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can't talk but did you three year old

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you try to explain why although the bear

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had evolved to wear clothing that the

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bear still refused to wear pants hahaha

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I can't speak for the beer I spent a

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year getting the beer out of a show ah

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the bear but he didn't he didn't belong

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think the only person ever to get him to

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speak on television

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always never know story snd yes and I

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guess what he said probably wasn't all

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that Kitty friendly it wasn't because of

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involved a Van de Graaff generator it

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was an accident but he was doing a lot

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of pointing a bit close to this thing

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and I let him go there's like there's a

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crack like a rifle shot and I could blue

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fire about a metre long leptin to the

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outstretched digit of this unhappy bear

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you did a quick 360 and pronounced one

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single muffled epithet from inside the

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suit and I think that's the only word he

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ever said on television I think we all

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wanted to do that to Humphrey bear and

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and for overseas lessness for what years

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did the curiosity show run nationally in

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Australia I had ran in Australia from

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1972 to 1990 and it was brought up by

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the Germans and dubbed into German which

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was interesting that what you're still

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speaking fluent German which I can't do

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and it was in Europe on about 14

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channels for I think about six years and

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bought it as well so I'm not quite sure

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where it was on different stages of the

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of the cycle but it was uncapable for a

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while too but certainly it's its life in

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Australia was 18 years and it was

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basically doing science experiments

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them excited and what age group were you

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mainly going for well we were really

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three three iterations the when it

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then it became an hour-long magazine

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program sort of all things to all people

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for children I hated that program it had

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several presenters in it but I was very

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unhappy with it and Dean was overseas at

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that time and I wrote to him and said I

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was going to get out of it he said well

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hold on till I get back and we actually

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should half hour show with us doing

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science and the other presenters could

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then go on to the magazine show which

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was also on called channel niners and to

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our surprise and pleasure they actually

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did that and that's where we started the

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show that fortunately everyone remembers

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and that's where he started getting the

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overseas sales and the Penguins and the

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pre shanice and things of that kind so

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it was actually your you can actually

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direction and philosophy which you

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couldn't do in a bigger under all things

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that's the beauty of science I mean it

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doesn't a rainbow is fascinating with

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you 5 or 50 so because you're dealing

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with science and scientific phenomena

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but we were aiming for that at that age

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range dr. Morrison with the philosophy

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of children's television shows where do

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you think they go wrong when they try

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and bring science into it where do they

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make the mistake to either make it

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either too high or too stupid where do

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they usually go wrong well I don't know

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that they always do and they've been

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some terrific programs for children not

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many of them have been science but Owen

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scope is on now and I think it's a great

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little program I think though speaking

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sent overseas to look at American

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children's television programs and it

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was they were horrified to think that a

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couple of old blokes would get up and

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talk directly to the camera which Dean

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and I did works very well here but in

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children and they were given don't lines

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asian so you're pretty limited in the

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plots you could get away with people are

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on television who are speaking with

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authority who plainly know their subject

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somehow cut through the screen if you

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look at Attenborough people love atma

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because he knows his stuff they can get

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other presenters who has sort of engaged

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because they might look terrific or

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sound wonderful or might be flavor of

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the month they put them in as a front

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person to spout science and it cuts no

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ice at all so children are pretty clear

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they can pick somebody

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you've got the authority to speak about

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what they're saying and you can sense

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that and even you've been in there were

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some subjects I wouldn't handle they

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were science but I didn't feel

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comfortable they didn't feel like me so

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I wouldn't do them and then ISIL divided

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it he was more physical science and

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machinery and geology whereas I was

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animals arts crafts music but all areas

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where we felt comfortable but put me

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doing one of Dean Sigma's and I think

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you would have detected the same kind of

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if it's hard to define it but it's a

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sense of lack of authority about what

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you're saying and I think children can

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pick that and as someone with decades of

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experience in the TV industry what do

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you reckon is the worst television show

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for children you've ever seen come on

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come on mr. dr. Morrison now you you are

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allowed you are allowed to include my

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own children's game show mine twist

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which is the finest piece of channel 10

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production ever made during the 90s I I

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wasn't fortunate enough to see that look

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I really couldn't come in because a lot

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of these things I've seen in pilot forum

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and they you know they might have got a

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pile it up and I never went to where or

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if it did it only went there once but I

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think speaking generically I hate shows

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the talk down to children I think shows

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that sort of have presenters who think

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they're talking to a crowd and they talk

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to the girls and boys out there they

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lose them immediately because even if

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television you're watching it as an

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individual so you need somebody to talk

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to you as an individual I hate the shows

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which really reveal that there are

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presenters who are doing children shows

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but for them it's a stepping stone to

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real telly I like the presenters who are

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quite happy to be doing children shows

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and don't use it as a stepping stone to

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something else and you can only tell

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them to leave I think there are a whole

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lot of things you look for you normally

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want to see people having fun and kids

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want to see people having fun and

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enjoying what they're doing yeah I think

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that's right and people say you can't

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define a good teacher but I think you

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can expect certain things one a good

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teacher is

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go to another subject and that partly

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goes back to that authority I talked

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about and the freedom to move around in

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that subject and experiment and go off

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in tangents knowing you've got control

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of it and the other thing is it's got to

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matter to them that other people find

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the delight in their subject that they

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do and you'll see that on all the good

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teachers they really want other people

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to see the pleasure in their subject

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area that they themselves feel and I

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think if you got these two elements you

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can have a variety of styles but

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something about that will be for most

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people convincing and compelling so I

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think those things have got to be there

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in the mix for for good television as

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they have to be for good teaching anyway

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dr. Morrison what do you think is the

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hardest thing to get across to children

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as a science concept one of the one the

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hardest science concepts it's hard to

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get across for me that there's Planck

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time and Schrodinger's cat there are two

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things that are really hard for me you

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probably wouldn't put them in a kids

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show but what for you is the one where r

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how we're going to show this how can we

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explain this easily well there are

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somethings that I'm baffled by and I

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would never even try I mean I've tried

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to get the groups with the subatomic

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physics and there's a point where I can

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follow it and then suddenly they might

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as well be spouting science fiction to

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me I I can't deal with it I know it's

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true because it works and people I trust

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say it's true but for me they could be

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saying almost anything and I wouldn't be

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able to tell the difference so trying to

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explain that I would have a lot of

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trouble with it was it was there

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anything that you did repeatedly on the

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show that you had trouble with but

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before the before the National Security

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Agency took you off line there dr.

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Morrison you were about to discuss the

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most difficult concept you had to get

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across on all your years of the

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curiosity show in science what was the

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hardest thing well it didn't quite work

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like that yeah Dylan I would sit down

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say to plan 13 episodes ahead and what

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we would do often would be just as

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Australia a word of might be water or

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maybe wheat or blue or something like

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that and then you'd put that out in the

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sort of middle of a circle and then you

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start doing lines out from it so i would

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start gravitating into my area of what

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would I think about perhaps I'd do a

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pond animal or I might do something to

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do with the color blue in antiquity how

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it's made out of lapis lazuli ground up

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so you just pick the subjects that you

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knew were interesting to you and you

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could handle we didn't have a kind of

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brief that said you must deal with these

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subjects so we were always in our own

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comfort zones and we tended to put on

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the stuff that I mean we Ben and I both

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grew up with our television so we had a

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boyhood of making things and doing

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things so you talk back to that a lot

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and haul out of that reservoir of your

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own experience stuff that you thought

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might interest in other audience so

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somebody has said to me or your job is

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to cover Schrodinger probably would have

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been out of it within a month or there'd

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be some idiot like me doing that kind of

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thing and look really what teenage kid

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wants to know about that well I think

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they I mean if you could get somebody

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who can explain it well I think anyone

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would like to know about that but if you

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if you get somebody and force them to

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explain stuff they're not comfortable

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with it'll show but we we didn't do that

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we weren't scripted shows were simply

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what we found interesting and we just

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did that and how do you feel about more

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contemporary shows for an older audience

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admittedly like the Mythbusters where

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there is a lot strong strong emphasis on

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the explosion and the very flashy things

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which of course are part of physics and

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science and how do you feel about that

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well some of Mythbusters are like a lot

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i like it when they actually take an

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interesting topic and then they use

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science and they use isolate variables

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and they do a controlled condition and

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that's pretty strong scientific stuff

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even though they're cool of that i like

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the way they analyze something and show

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how a scientific approach will sort of

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that i am less enthusiastic about the

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endless cackling and i hate watching the

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sort of

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teenagers just saying all going to have

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an explosion because it's such a parody

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of what science is about and again they

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look like people who you know they're

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not really tell me interest of the

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science interesting the kind of you know

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let me be center stage and carry on like

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a like a mad thing you know it's are

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more interested in the material I think

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than the kind of Richie presentation of

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that but that's a very American than

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average I'd certainly is tell me what is

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the one experiment that did go wrong for

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you there must have been a few I mean I

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know you didn't do big mythbuster type

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explosions but things got a bit out of

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hand on more than one occasion in the

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studio I'm sure well we did have we had

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a few of them but unfortunately we

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haven't got much of a bloopers tape

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because they used to just rewind the

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tape and then go over it I certainly was

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greatly mortified once when I did a hot

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air balloon of us of you know tissue

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paper honey but he knows has actually

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taken out of the science curriculum for

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schools but I did it and gave all the

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usual sort of cautions about take care

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take care take care but was horrified to

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find somebody in the parliament house in

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the Canberra raising questions about

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this terrible show and the dangerous

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things it was teaching two children oh I

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was very desperately was actually from

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the syllabus yes I was from the syllabus

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I was young enough to be mortified at

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that these days I'd be a bit more robust

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but that wasn't Pleasant I think

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somebody wrote into Dean saying they did

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something a [\h__\h] done and set fire to

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their house I think I think they were

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probably not doing it the way Dina done

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it but you didn't have to be a bit

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careful but on the other hand if you

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start memorizing it too much and saying

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we won't have flame you won't have this

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we went of that you've got very little

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you can show and if you want to make a

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putt putt boat or something with a

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candle it requires a candle yes and the

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reason I'm talking to is because you've

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put a lot of clips from the curiosity

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show up on YouTube people to have a look

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at for free and have their own go out

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yes we have indeed we a lot of people

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have said why don't you bring the show

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back but I think television is change

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so much of nothing it sounds a bit sort

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of self-serving but I think we saw the

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heyday of it not because it was us but

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simply because i think that period in

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television was marvelous it was three

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channels then a fourth one came along

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was all a bit special we saw the

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introduction of color when i started i

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was actually filming in black and white

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film you know so you saw those

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television technology's changing because

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we must explain to our American

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listeners that color television Allen

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came to australia in 76 was it was that

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the unitary five or six years yeah quite

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late and nationally we only had three

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sometimes four stations if you were in

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newcastle like i was you only had two TV

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channels the ABC and the local one which

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did not always run the Curiosity show

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that's why I haven't seen a lot of you

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episodes all right yes we were a

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national but as you say when you go into

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the regionals it was a bit term a bit

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chancy depending on here random and I'd

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like to point out we also didn't have FM

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radio at that time that only came to

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australia in nineteen eighty years of

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nothing that's right and of course the

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the broadening of delivery has made that

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the special attention that you could

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give to television has been weakened so

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the money is not there because the

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advertising flow is not so strong and it

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said I used to work for several channels

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here and you go into these big beautiful

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studios may be full of sets you had to

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be quick to get in and out before the

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next program recording and where can we

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find your videos on YouTube is it simple

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simple as a Google googling curiosity

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show if you go to what is it it's um I

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think if you go to youtube.com slash

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curiosity show one word you'll find it

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there we've been putting new stuff up

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every day we're about to slow down

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because well you got to relax you're

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going to calm down and going to kick

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back with your feet up have a smoke or

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something well as a bit of that but also

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we have to start thinking about whether

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we can we're not putting ads on it so

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it's all free but it does cost a bit to

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do so we're going to sort of slow it

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down a little and have a think about

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what what else we might do with it

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actually what's your favorite clip

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what's your favorite

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there you've got so far oh look it's

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hard to say I've reattached to the

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mousetrap racer which I've seen emerge

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in different programs over the years

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since I did it you just mail strapped

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into a racing car and then sometimes do

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you think well that'll work i wonder if

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we can make a mousetrap paddlewheeler

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and you do so one idea will give you

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about five or six different segments so

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that one is up there here's a question

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for you been asked by colleague of mine

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he's his son has to get their science

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badge for Cubs and has to do a science

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experiment using things from around the

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house Oh what do you think would be the

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best thing to get his science Cubs badge

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just using stuff from around the house

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well it depends what the requirements

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the science club badge is but a

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mousetrap races a pretty good one a

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master paddle really they are straight

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off the top of the head if it's if it's

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a sort of science demonstration there's

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one which I had forgotten are done but

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it turned up when we're putting stuff on

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and I can describe this for your

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listeners to try because it's every time

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I do it I can't believe it if you get a

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potato get a potato a sharp knife and a

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piece of newspaper okay fold the

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newspaper over and you'll find with a

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sharp knife you can cut it very easy

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like like a paper knife all right now

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you fold another bit of paper over the

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knife the sharp edge of it and bring it

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down and cut the potato what do you

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think will happen to the paper I don't

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know well try it you'll be amazed and

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well I can tell you what will happen

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because you still be amazed evilly you

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know will we will be collapse the wave

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form now is it but you think the knife

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would cut through the paper and then the

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potato but then the paper is completely

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unscathed it'll just go through the

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stator with a knife however sharp that

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knife is and when you think about it

546
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when you just cut paper with a sharp

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knife the force on one side of the paper

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is enormous and on the other is

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non-existent so the night goes through

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the paper when you put the paper over

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the knife and then cut a potato the

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force on other side of the the paper is

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exactly the same so the paper doesn't

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sivad despite the fact that the

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combination of the knife and the paper

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force their way down through the entire

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potato so the paper even those damn is

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unscathed but every time I do it I'm

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amazed so that's a good one that's a

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good demonstration no I reckon that

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could get you science club badge I

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reckon I should if you go online if he

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goes on load with we've assembled these

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scripts into playlists so you can go

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into you know making and doing or you

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can go into you know as tricks and

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puzzles or a heart and crafts or that

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one of our staples in the show was to

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use stuff around the home we didn't you

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know if you're a kid watching a program

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on Sunday and you live at it it will pop

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and you haven't got a hobby shop and

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somebody says go and buy this such and

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such and you can't get it then you can't

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do anything so you want to learn how to

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use foam me traes instead of balsa wood

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you want to learn how to twist your own

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propeller out of aluminium foil food

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containers instead of having to buy one

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so we tend to do a lot of that there's a

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great deal you learn from making and

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doing and doing things with your fingers

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and one of the reasons we've put this

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stuff online there is that so many

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parents are watching these kids playing

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with xboxes in there they've got very

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mobile thumbs but that's about it and

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they really worried about their children

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not making stuff and not doing stuff and

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not learning science because a lot of us

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not being taught in schools anymore at

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least you know you let you're lucky if

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you get a school is being how we'll

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handle so very very anxious and they

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they're buying our dvds and downloading

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the sigmas just to have things that

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children can do and make and make

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working models of and you learn a great

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deal by doing that we'll look up the

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curiosity show on YouTube and one last

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controversial question because this is

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the media we have to give you a

603
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controversial question dr. Morrison what

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branch of pseudoscience annoys you the

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most is it come on here we go come here

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whole program that now you're talking to

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somebody who two years ago is one of the

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five founders of friends of science and

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medicine all year though that's why I

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want to get your dander up I want you

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coming out and punching someone well

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where we've got so sick of this pseudo

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health nonsense as being spouted and you

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know often by the people are going to

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make it quit out of the out of the

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dubious say you know whether it's

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homeopathy or iridology or reflexology

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or you know their vent their about 35 of

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these things being currently examined by

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the chief medical officer of Australia

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to see whether they should be taken off

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the list of those which give any sort of

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money they shouldn't be they shouldn't

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be supported by the taxpayer so we

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formed a group and we have about a

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thousand members now trying to take some

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of this nonsense on all the [\h__\h] on you

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be a reef you be a secret reflexology

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fan maybe come on come on you get the I

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reckon there's been a magnet in your bed

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at least once in your life well possibly

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if I was trying to make something but

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there will be the only reason evolution

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you can tell us that story next time

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well that'll be a with a late night

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version of the interview look Rob thanks

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very much for your time dr. rob morris

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and as I said curiosity so go check it

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out on youtube it's been a great

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pleasure to talk to you sir yeah okay

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it never ends a friend starts talking

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about his new Reiki Master and someone

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else just posted about another

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all-natural cancer cure that they don't

645
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want you to know about as skeptics we

646
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spend a lot of time trying to educate

647
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and protect those around us but there is

648
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a way that you can reach millions

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guerrilla skepticism on Wikipedia is a

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group working to keep the best skeptical

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information at everyone's fingertips

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join us we need writers editors

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translators we need you to join us or

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find out more send a facebook friend

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request to Susan Berbick that's ger be I

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welcome to a week in science from our

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iOS bringing you the science news you

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need to know maths and politics all

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mixed up tracking Russian asteroids and

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a scary massive platypus that's what

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your ability to solve math problems may

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depend on your political views over

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1,000 participants in the United States

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were first classified according to their

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mathematical ability and their political

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leaning they were then given a maths

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problem using data from a fake

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scientific study about the effectiveness

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of controversial gun laws people with

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good math skills who should have been

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able to solve the problem performed

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significantly worse when the answer went

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against their political stance this

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shows that our political views impact on

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our logic and reasoning skills which

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could explain why people uphold certain

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opinions even in the face of compelling

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scientific evidence the analysis of the

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chillier bintz gas droid is in and it

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shows just how powerful a small asteroid

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can be the roughly 20 meter diameter

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asteroid exploded over the Russian town

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in February 2013 injuring hundreds and

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causing widespread damage it exploded

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into smaller fragments around 30 to 45

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kilometers above the ground while

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travelling at the huge speed of sixty

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four thousand kilometers per hour the

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explosion had the power of around

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500,000 tons of TNT and appeared 30

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times brighter than the Sun the rock

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itself is thought to have originated

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from an asteroid called 1999 NC 43 which

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is not the same asteroid that made a

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close pass in the same week you're

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listening to our week in science from RI

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oz are now four sides headlines in 30

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seconds

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children with autism have more neural

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connections in their brains compared to

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other children which could aid in early

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detection scientists have created a

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low-fat mince meat that looks and tastes

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the same but replaces the fat with fiber

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and protein from cows blood it's

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estimated around twenty percent of

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sun-like stars have orbiting planets

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which are earth-sized and may have

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liquid water on their surface and a one

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00:29:40,030 --> 00:29:37,220
meter long platypus has been identified

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in Queensland but it's been extinct for

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over five million years that's it for

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this a week in science I'll see you

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right back here next week hey Kenny oh

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hi Tom I see at this park yeah yes great

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weather oh look a unicorn unicorn there

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are no such things as unicorns silly yes

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00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:12,920
there is no there isn't hey guys what

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00:30:18,010 --> 00:30:14,510
are you arguing about tom thinks

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unicorns are real say so our let's look

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us up in the skeptics dictionary the

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what how can we do this in this bar

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there is the computer here you guys

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probably don't know about the skeptics

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dictionary app available now for iPhone

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iPad and iPod touch in the App Store Wow

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cool the app lets you access all of the

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great skeptics dictionary articles when

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you're on the go here let me look up

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unicorns now cool Kenny prepare to be

731
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:45,350
proven wrong it says here the Unicorn is

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a creature from fables aha actually I

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00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:50,720
see now that someone just dumped their

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ice cream cone on that horse's head

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from the website wwc em watch gov au

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don't back a scammer this spring racing

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season scam watch is reminding punters

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not to be fooled by con artists pushing

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sports investment scams this racing

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:27,239
season foolproof gambling schemes and

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00:31:32,479 --> 00:31:29,970
betting prediction software trap more

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people during the spring racing season

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00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:36,269
as the race fever takes hold often

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00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:38,940
promoted as legitimate investments these

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00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:42,119
schemes simply do not deliver the odds

746
00:31:48,229 --> 00:31:44,690
are you will never see your money again

747
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:48,239
remember gambling by definition is a

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00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:50,970
game of chance there is no such thing as

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00:31:58,669 --> 00:31:55,679
a foolproof bet how these scams work you

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00:32:00,979 --> 00:31:58,679
receive a call email or letter out of

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the blue from somebody offering you an

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opportunity to invest in a sporting

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betting syndicate or software package

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that is guaranteed to provide high

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returns the promoter claims that the

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scheme is able to predict results based

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on historical trends track or horse

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conditions or different odds offered by

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00:32:26,379 --> 00:32:23,639
bookmakers the promoter will try to

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convince you that this investment

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00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:29,159
opportunity is legitimate through

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00:32:34,879 --> 00:32:31,919
sophisticated brochures or websites that

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contain graphs or diagrams showing large

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or turns you are also likely to be

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subjected to high pressure sales tactics

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to try and get you to sign up on the

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spot such as claiming that places are

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strictly limited in order to participate

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you are required to pay large upfront

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costs and ongoing fees and charges

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betting syndicates also require you to

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put money into a sports betting account

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so that promoters can place bets on

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behalf of the syndicate with

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participants receiving a percentage of

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the profits often no bets are actually

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placed if you sign up you may initially

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find your account shows winnings during

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the

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I'll period however it's not long before

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all your money and the promoters

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disappear protect yourself if you

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receive a phone call or email out of the

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blue with a sports investment

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00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:33,080
opportunity just hang up or press Delete

786
00:33:38,890 --> 00:33:36,330
always get independent financial or

787
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:38,900
legal advice if an offer involves

788
00:33:45,140 --> 00:33:41,870
significant money time or commitment

789
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:45,150
don't be enticed by reports of past

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performance or graphs showing high

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00:33:54,110 --> 00:33:50,940
returns and don't let scammers push your

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buttons by pressuring you to sign up on

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the spot ask yourself if a stranger knew

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00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:00,630
a secret to making money why would they

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00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:03,929
share it if you think you have provided

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00:34:08,409 --> 00:34:06,170
your account details to a scammer

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00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:08,419
contact your bank or financial

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00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:11,730
institution immediately and for those in

799
00:34:21,830 --> 00:34:13,800
Australia you can report scams to the a

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Triple C by calling 1 307 95 995 for

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00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:41,890
well as I mentioned earlier in the show

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the Australian skeptics national

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00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:46,940
convention is almost upon us a few seats

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left and that's it they're all gone the

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word is hurry up and get your tickets

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00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:55,090
now at wwn a Chanel skeptics convention

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org and also don't forget all the

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wonderful fringe events these include

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00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:04,070
discovery after dark at the CSIRO

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00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:07,160
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834
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:32,930
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835
00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:36,670
it even if it means you can't come back

836
00:36:40,810 --> 00:36:38,540
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837
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:40,820
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873
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:15,619
on to skeptics in the pub so a couple of

874
00:38:18,999 --> 00:38:17,150
weeks ago on the skeptic zone we

875
00:38:22,329 --> 00:38:19,009
interviewed a man who wants to go to

876
00:38:25,779 --> 00:38:22,339
Mars and the Mars mission but the catch

877
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:25,789
is if he's chosen he gets to go that he

878
00:38:31,749 --> 00:38:29,209
goes on one way to come to Mars would

879
00:38:33,549 --> 00:38:31,759
you go if you had the chance to be the

880
00:38:37,269 --> 00:38:33,559
first person who set foot on Mars would

881
00:38:39,759 --> 00:38:37,279
you go on one mic again no way no as

882
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:39,769
much as I would I mean it's actually the

883
00:38:45,609 --> 00:38:43,089
experience of being good read of all

884
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:45,619
hang on would I be on my own or what I

885
00:38:50,499 --> 00:38:47,390
haven't come from you would have company

886
00:38:54,099 --> 00:38:50,509
I don't company yeah then then there's

887
00:38:56,140 --> 00:38:54,109
no way in hell and being around other

888
00:38:59,699 --> 00:38:56,150
people for that long thank you Joe

889
00:39:03,579 --> 00:38:59,709
better mood iron for stockings and

890
00:39:06,459 --> 00:39:03,589
Lieutenant a ransom acquaintance I would

891
00:39:08,529 --> 00:39:06,469
only go if I could choose the people

892
00:39:14,109 --> 00:39:08,539
that I would go with and I would choose

893
00:39:15,819 --> 00:39:14,119
joy so she has to go with me what do I

894
00:39:17,439 --> 00:39:15,829
tell what I would tell my husband is

895
00:39:20,169 --> 00:39:17,449
sitting right next to us after that

896
00:39:21,729 --> 00:39:20,179
little um after my destroyer that I

897
00:39:25,209 --> 00:39:21,739
wouldn't go if I had to go with anyone

898
00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:25,219
else oh I mean the Diane are so so

899
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:28,440
nicely I know it's true well

900
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:31,170
I think it's a bit I think it's a bit

901
00:39:34,099 --> 00:39:32,640
tough though I think one day we'll be

902
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:34,109
able to get whopper to the bring us home

903
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:37,849
again we should wait until oh yeah but

904
00:39:42,319 --> 00:39:40,170
wait then we'd have to come take the

905
00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:42,329
risk of sending people before we knew

906
00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:45,540
that we can do that yeah well we did

907
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:49,740
that with the moon you you probably

908
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:51,930
wouldn't go and you probably would it

909
00:39:57,500 --> 00:39:55,170
chose day yes I know Anderson on a

910
00:39:59,930 --> 00:39:57,510
couple of other people as well yeah I

911
00:40:02,559 --> 00:39:59,940
wouldn't want to go on my own I'll leave

912
00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:02,569
you ladies to think about that thank you

913
00:40:07,940 --> 00:40:05,430
now its diminutive editor of the skeptic

914
00:40:09,609 --> 00:40:07,950
magazine Tim if you had the chance to be

915
00:40:12,319 --> 00:40:09,619
the first person who set foot on Mars

916
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:12,329
but the deal was it was a one-way ticket

917
00:40:20,180 --> 00:40:17,550
would you go to my go alone ya know you

918
00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:20,190
be with all four or five other people

919
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:22,740
others are they interesting people who

920
00:40:27,319 --> 00:40:25,500
knows probably if they're interesting

921
00:40:30,109 --> 00:40:27,329
alive if they not i think i might have

922
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:30,119
to leave halfway through the trip leave

923
00:40:33,319 --> 00:40:31,980
halfway through the trip so sorry i'm

924
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:33,329
just gonna go back so he just take me

925
00:40:39,319 --> 00:40:36,839
back i change her mind I doubted oh yeah

926
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:39,329
yeah will you could I take what can I

927
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:41,130
take it wasn't of if is the other four

928
00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:45,089
people were Merrill was it I probably

929
00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:46,470
could have I probably could have I would

930
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:48,270
cook then again I might be a chance to

931
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,250
murder people on Mars a big booty Emma's

932
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:52,079
for a movie I think that was a doctor

933
00:40:56,660 --> 00:40:54,089
who plot once it but there are thousands

934
00:40:58,700 --> 00:40:56,670
of people who've signed up to to take

935
00:41:00,500 --> 00:40:58,710
the chance to go to Mars but not come

936
00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:00,510
back yeah but they're probably yeah I

937
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:02,220
mean what's the chances of them doing it

938
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:06,000
salima asleep again happen uh yeah I'd

939
00:41:11,540 --> 00:41:08,730
sign up you know sign up in

940
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:11,550
I'll be the one yesterday their money is

941
00:41:17,150 --> 00:41:15,180
it honey you don't need money on yeah

942
00:41:21,890 --> 00:41:17,160
but I mean you know now get a down

943
00:41:24,170 --> 00:41:21,900
payment now and spend it possibly [\h__\h]

944
00:41:28,270 --> 00:41:24,180
chocolates on things I'm Martian dollars

945
00:41:30,350 --> 00:41:28,280
maybe I don't know Boz Boz deposit

946
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:30,360
actually sort of photo today someone

947
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:32,550
sent me a photo of the Milky Way from

948
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:35,430
Mars it's a nuggie way bar on top of a

949
00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:38,970
mars bar are the jokes are just flying

950
00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:40,500
thick and fast here it's characters in

951
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:46,020
the buffer right now there's a group of

952
00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:47,730
people recruiting people to go to Mars

953
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:50,820
turn on the radio Pepitone yeah that's

954
00:41:54,110 --> 00:41:52,710
very exciting you might have the chance

955
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,120
to be one of the first people who said

956
00:42:00,370 --> 00:41:56,640
have put on Mars the catch is you don't

957
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:00,380
come back yeah but would you do it

958
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:03,210
stupid I mean who would look after my

959
00:42:12,590 --> 00:42:06,800
dog no that's a good point what you know

960
00:42:14,090 --> 00:42:12,600
that we would look after your dog yeah I

961
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:14,100
see me she still around quite old now

962
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:15,960
they even so i'd have another dog but it

963
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:18,030
apparently like you know it's really

964
00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:19,710
quite just leave a dog forever can you

965
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:22,470
it knows maybe guy you're with you I

966
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:24,510
don't know so no it's interesting some

967
00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:27,210
people are desperate to go jump you know

968
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:29,460
chanting in a bit we committed on the

969
00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:33,030
radio I had a wife and kids oh really

970
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:36,390
yeah wait what does that work they're

971
00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:37,650
not going for eight years or something

972
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:39,000
are they

973
00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:41,640
ah well if they go and like oh it's not

974
00:42:46,610 --> 00:42:45,150
gonna be good well yeah and then you

975
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,620
know you'd have to face the prospect you

976
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:48,480
get there you do start them in like your

977
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:50,010
time was learning is very cold there

978
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:51,810
anyway you I didn't like the call that's

979
00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:53,010
why I moved to Australia I'm not go to

980
00:43:00,260 --> 00:42:56,670
Mars is that good answer point very good

981
00:43:02,860 --> 00:43:00,270
and very red they're very red spray Reds

982
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:02,870
right come on red I just don't like cold

983
00:43:10,370 --> 00:43:06,150
Thank You Kathy yes you are can I ask

984
00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:10,380
you that question cuz I'm good right oh

985
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:14,280
I see see so you would rather live a

986
00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:16,020
happy life on earth and to be the first

987
00:43:20,660 --> 00:43:18,600
person on mass easily easily well that

988
00:43:22,970 --> 00:43:20,670
answers that question support human life

989
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:22,980
anyway oh no no it is I've built some

990
00:43:27,350 --> 00:43:25,500
sort of bio downloaded for ya you you

991
00:43:29,660 --> 00:43:27,360
live in an artificial environment sounds

992
00:43:31,580 --> 00:43:29,670
pretty boring radiation shielding the

993
00:43:33,590 --> 00:43:31,590
oxygen generation you need this I need a

994
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:33,600
source of food radiation shielding is

995
00:43:39,930 --> 00:43:36,210
the hottest pot to the grind

996
00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:39,940
inside you cook inside the artificial

997
00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:42,070
environments ' I've got claustrophobia

998
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,320
and acrophobia so no it's getting worse

999
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:46,720
and worse in it I've got bad news sure

1000
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:49,510
you're off the mission maybe that's good

1001
00:43:58,890 --> 00:43:57,730
news Tamar's happy not on the one that's

1002
00:44:01,859 --> 00:43:58,900
a good a really high speed internet

1003
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:01,869
connection otherwise enough oh I say you

1004
00:44:07,620 --> 00:44:03,450
wouldn't go unless you could facebook

1005
00:44:09,090 --> 00:44:07,630
not Facebook so much is into

1006
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:09,100
interplanetary gaming League or

1007
00:44:13,740 --> 00:44:12,490
something glad to see you people here at

1008
00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:13,750
skeptics in the pub forgot their

1009
00:44:22,349 --> 00:44:19,990
priorities right so much I see you're

1010
00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:22,359
reading the the brochure on places

1011
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:23,740
evening yeah I don't know it was just

1012
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:27,040
there I just no no so the questions

1013
00:44:31,890 --> 00:44:30,130
night is there currently recruiting

1014
00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:31,900
people for a possible mission to Mars

1015
00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:34,630
the trick is of course on white one way

1016
00:44:41,580 --> 00:44:38,920
would you take it I also be ten years

1017
00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:41,590
ago I would have said yes but probably

1018
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:43,900
not now I can unless I think my kids in

1019
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:45,609
this meeting I think you've got a very

1020
00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:48,970
good point of it the pit opinions a

1021
00:44:53,970 --> 00:44:51,220
little divided but most people say

1022
00:44:55,770 --> 00:44:53,980
they'd rather not go no I'd be up for it

1023
00:44:57,720 --> 00:44:55,780
if I do you have a family to worry about

1024
00:45:00,300 --> 00:44:57,730
I'd be definitely up for it oh yeah

1025
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:00,310
besides I've only way two thirds of what

1026
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:04,000
our way now oh now there's something

1027
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:06,310
people haven't mentioned so far I mean

1028
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:07,690
when you run around my so you could

1029
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:10,140
really leap and down they guess like

1030
00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:12,569
like the superhero what's his name the

1031
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:15,900
guy who win DeMars jhankar joke had a

1032
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:19,049
year yeah comes leaping around Mars yeah

1033
00:45:25,099 --> 00:45:23,369
so your vote is probably not not now no

1034
00:45:27,769 --> 00:45:25,109
but if you've got me when I was in my

1035
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:27,779
twenties yeah I probably would have said

1036
00:45:32,660 --> 00:45:30,900
yes okay well it's neither man Tate who

1037
00:45:34,730 --> 00:45:32,670
joined us for a pink anchor a couple of

1038
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,740
weeks ago hello Margaret hello tell you

1039
00:45:37,819 --> 00:45:36,480
I'm finally thank you for covering the

1040
00:45:39,769 --> 00:45:37,829
skeptics in the pub looks like it's a

1041
00:45:42,049 --> 00:45:39,779
packed house tonight it is really didn't

1042
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,059
get a seat we were I thought we'd been

1043
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:44,160
turned away and you brought some family

1044
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:45,660
members that have I brought my mother

1045
00:45:56,540 --> 00:45:52,470
three of them sitting here who's

1046
00:46:01,890 --> 00:45:59,100
recently there's been a movement out to

1047
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:01,900
recruit people to go to Mars be the

1048
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:03,760
first person to go to Mars other foot in

1049
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:05,650
the first group of people go to Mars the

1050
00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:09,250
catch is it's a one-way ticket if you

1051
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:11,350
had the chance would you go to Mars if

1052
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:14,590
you knew you could he come back possibly

1053
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:18,370
yes depended it would depend if I was in

1054
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:22,570
to euthanasia well I'm not to be honest

1055
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:24,610
I'm not sure how long you'd last there

1056
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,890
but the point is you could you could say

1057
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:28,720
for as long as you last that I was the

1058
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:30,760
first person i won the first people to

1059
00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:33,430
reach another plan you may would live in

1060
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:34,780
history is there something to get there

1061
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:37,770
doesn't it oh no no it takes a matter of

1062
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:41,440
some months not years okay okay you

1063
00:46:50,660 --> 00:46:44,800
don't come back no why don't you come

1064
00:46:57,290 --> 00:46:54,680
very expensive is our life exam because

1065
00:46:58,910 --> 00:46:57,300
to get there is one thing but then the

1066
00:47:00,860 --> 00:46:58,920
blast off from Mars and make the trip

1067
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:00,870
home is quite a different story so it's

1068
00:47:06,770 --> 00:47:03,810
actually cheaper if you just go there ok

1069
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:06,780
ok so we're colonizing Mars you ever

1070
00:47:15,590 --> 00:47:10,640
have any beaches there I'm afraid not

1071
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:15,600
and showers would be limited yeah and

1072
00:47:24,530 --> 00:47:21,930
hairdryers I just don't know I'll do it

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when I'm about 80 what can I go in my 80

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sure why not youjizz engine right when

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we get wasted it would you go to Mars if

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you knew you couldn't come back yes it's

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one way you got to go there and live

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there for every count on home

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like who like can I go with you and

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everything okay Sophie if you come with

1081
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me you'd go with your mom yeah there we

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go the family that goes to Mars together

1083
00:48:08,110 --> 00:48:06,500
the three generations I can see I've

1084
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been asking everybody else I might as

1085
00:48:13,210 --> 00:48:10,610
well ask myself the same question I have

1086
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thought about this no you know what I

1087
00:48:19,690 --> 00:48:16,070
would I'd leave that glory and honor and

1088
00:48:23,230 --> 00:48:19,700
thrilled to somebody else I think the

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kick I would get out of being part of it

1090
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as in watching and learning about it and

1091
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:28,730
enjoying it in that respect I think that

1092
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:33,440
would be okay for me a couple of years

1093
00:48:38,050 --> 00:48:35,990
ago there was a huge dust storm here in

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00:48:40,570 --> 00:48:38,060
Sabine the sky was red than the ground

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00:48:43,340 --> 00:48:40,580
was red and it was quite eerie and I

1096
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:43,350
thought if I settling

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00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:46,720
so I think a constant read aspect of

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and yeah I think I'll leave it for other

1099
00:48:58,830 --> 00:48:55,720
people if you don't leave it for other

1100
00:49:15,050 --> 00:48:58,840
people but it would be a hell of an

1101
00:49:20,370 --> 00:49:17,520
but Castillo's is an award-winning

1102
00:49:23,370 --> 00:49:20,380
weekly science show in French hosted by

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00:49:25,650 --> 00:49:23,380
a bunch of crazy enthusiasts we are

1104
00:49:28,020 --> 00:49:25,660
convinced that the greatest ideas in

1105
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:28,030
science are quite easy to grasp as long

1106
00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:30,250
as they are presented with passion using

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00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:32,830
a vocabulary common to all curious minds

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00:49:37,770 --> 00:49:35,050
whatever their academic background if

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00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:37,780
any we don't understand French yet I

1110
00:49:42,660 --> 00:49:40,780
it's never too late all our stories have

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00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:42,670
a written transcript on the website and

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00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:44,470
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00:49:49,650 --> 00:49:46,570
using our content to learn Maria's

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00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:52,120
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00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:54,730
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1117
00:50:01,260 --> 00:49:57,370
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1118
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1122
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:10,470
also find us on itunes and soundcloud

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see you soon hopefully had to live

1124
00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:14,530
exactly a year at the others or

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pedestrians

1126
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:34,530
you

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00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:39,880
zone I'm still here making my way to the

1128
00:50:43,530 --> 00:50:41,890
pub which is a bit odd because you would

1129
00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:43,540
have just heard the interviews from the

1130
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,630
pub but that's the way the podcast works

1131
00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:48,400
it's all recorded a bit out of sequence

1132
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:51,790
although what's this the south american

1133
00:50:57,420 --> 00:50:55,330
type fans have set up shop but the other

1134
00:51:01,420 --> 00:50:57,430
end of pitt street more from the other

1135
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:03,160
to all those people coming to the

1136
00:51:06,099 --> 00:51:04,400
Australian skeptics National Convention

1137
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:06,109
not long to go now and I can't wait to

1138
00:51:10,930 --> 00:51:07,730
see you all there I'm sure we'll have a

1139
00:51:14,260 --> 00:51:10,940
great a lot of fun and with that music

1140
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:14,270
heavenly music wafting through them all

1141
00:51:24,010 --> 00:51:16,880
this is Richard Saunders signing off

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00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:24,020
from Sydney Australia you've been

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00:51:31,809 --> 00:51:27,290
listening to the skeptic zone visit our

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website at www skeptics on TV for